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Originally Posted by jeffreycharris  While there are many different ways to swing a golf club, it seems to me there are two main camps. One way to swing is more dependent on the hands and arms squaring the club face. The other way is to square the face with the body, or so-called "bigger muscles." Now this is just my observation, and I am sure it is more complicated and nuanced. |
It obviously
is more nuanced, because i consider myself in neither camp.
Anyway, can you really square the club face without any hand action?[quote=jeffreycharris;131947]
Absolutely, positively not.
Of course, this whole "debate" is based on golfers who have the club too open at some point, and have to roll the heck out of their arms and hands, often still slicing it.
90% of hookers
do not over roll!
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Originally Posted by jeffreycharris When I am hitting it well (much thanks to Brian) I feel my left hand rolling, rather than the old flip. And I actually have to think about the roll |
Lots of golfer have to PRACTICE more roll then they use. David Toms and Bobby Crestman are two students of mine who do.
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Originally Posted by jeffreycharris But what about this hit it with the big muscles stuff, with very little hand action around impact. |
Just about everybody who can play is using very little "hand action" (independent clubface rotation) through impact.
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Originally Posted by jeffreycharris Is that the Holy Grail, learning to control your club face with your body? |
There is no "Holy Grail."
Golf is a mix, kinda like a good gumbo, and sometimes, when the shrimp ain't sweet, you have to alter the recipe.
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Originally Posted by jeffreycharris Just a turn back and turn through? |
If it was, I would be selling Allstate.
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Originally Posted by jeffreycharris Or does it just feel that way? |
To good players, probably yes.
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Originally Posted by jeffreycharris The hand action is so ingrained that some folks no longer feel it? |
Like I said, the trick is no getting the clubface to come into the ball too open.
From what I can see a 1000fps, and on 6° 3D, there isn't a whole lot of roll going on in ANY swing.
Horizontal Hinge Action (the face staying vertical to the ground through the ball) just doesn't exist in the real world.
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Originally Posted by jeffreycharris Is there merit to these more "around swings" with little roll over? |
The "roll over" these Methods profess to eliminate, happens so much past impact in the swings they criticize it is really just show biz.
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Originally Posted by jeffreycharris I am looking for the simplest way to hit the ball solid and straight. What kind of release is simplest for most people? |
The one that works for them.
Remember, no one rolls it much during impact, and the finish swivel has to be "decided on" in the brain, long beofre impact.
Think about it.