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Old 10-25-2008, 11:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 10-25-2008, 06:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think he played a fade.
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Whenever I saw him in person it was a slight draw.
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That's awesome to see him in person.

I thought he was a Nicklaus guy. Upright, played a fade, wide arc, took it back low and slow.

I was wrong though.
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chuck cook gave an interview and he revealed how payne always thought he could win the US open playing a draw because this was his normal shot. but chuck knew that the players who won US Opens played fades, as they needed the extra control. but payne was insistant he could win it drawing the ball.

chuck therefore tricked payne though. he would stand closer to panye causing him to get more upright and fade the ball. he started hitting fades. he won his first US Open.

the second he won he again thought he could win drawing it. chuck got him again though. he just kept tellig payne he was aiming way right, and he needed to aim more left. he opened his stance so much he started fading it again. he won th open again.

i think it would be safe to say he hit both shots
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I remember listening to that interview pecky, it was quality.. A guy I know was doing some coaching or seminars with Chuck and Chuck told him that he could take a tramp off the street and if he did everything Chuck said would get him onto the PGA tour and win 3 million dollars within 10 years - classic - the guys a bit of a nutter but he's good, funny guy!!
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chuck cook gave an interview and he revealed how payne always thought he could win the US open playing a draw because this was his normal shot. but chuck knew that the players who won US Opens played fades, as they needed the extra control. but payne was insistant he could win it drawing the ball.

chuck therefore tricked payne though. he would stand closer to panye causing him to get more upright and fade the ball. he started hitting fades. he won his first US Open.

the second he won he again thought he could win drawing it. chuck got him again though. he just kept tellig payne he was aiming way right, and he needed to aim more left. he opened his stance so much he started fading it again. he won th open again.

i think it would be safe to say he hit both shots
if that story is true, its pretty pathetic that a coach would use such a tactic on a golfer that plays for his living, regardless of the fact that it worked in that case.
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if that story is true, its pretty pathetic that a coach would use such a tactic on a golfer that plays for his living, regardless of the fact that it worked in that case.
would you like to see it?

i'd need permission to put it up though
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Old 10-30-2008, 11:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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As pecky987 said, the story is told by Chuck Cook on his instructional DVD.

Frankly, I can't believe that Payne Stewart was fooled, as he surely knew that he wasn't hitting draws with what Chuck Cook was (allegedly) telling him.

Whatever. Stewart obviously entrusted his game to Mr. Cook and had great success.
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