Swinging across left leg

[rogerdodger]

If we try to swing across the left leg as opposed to away from it, how much farther forward does the swing bottom move? When my swing goes too much inside out, the swing obviously bottoms out farther behind the ball. Swing plane and ball position are responsible for taking a divot according to The Golfing Machine. Swinging across the left leg takes care of the swing plane, what do we do with ball position? How much more forward do we go?

[Kevin Shields]

Originally Posted by rogerdodger

If we try to swing across the left leg as opposed to away from it, how much farther forward does the swing bottom move? When my swing goes too much inside out, the swing obviously bottoms out farther behind the ball. Swing plane and ball position are responsible for taking a divot according to The Golfing Machine. Swinging across the left leg takes care of the swing plane, what do we do with ball position? How much more forward do we go?

I would think it would depend on how long the hands "hover" and how much lateral movement is involved.

[2mongoose]

It's definitely gonna be and feel a helluva lot more left to you but the dumb answer, and probably the right one, is that whatever ball position you start to hit it straighter with a divot that's straight is the right one

The tricky part will be to match the clubface to this path that is suddenly going more left and not curving the golf ball.

I'd start with a grip that can accommodate that (weaker).

[Brian Manzella]

Originally Posted by rogerdodger

If we try to swing across the left leg as opposed to away from it, how much farther forward does the swing bottom move? When my swing goes too much inside out, the swing obviously bottoms out farther behind the ball. Swing plane and ball position are responsible for taking a divot according to The Golfing Machine. Swinging across the left leg takes care of the swing plane, what do we do with ball position? How much more forward do we go?

The Golfing Machine is VERY VAGUE on Ball Position.

Then, there are the kooks that think it should move A LOT from club to club.

I use to prefer one pretty forward ball position for my better players.

It tended to work well for snap releases.

Now days, I customize for all students, but I use this basic idea:

LW up to the 6-iron, club in the middle of the feet to VERY SLIGHTLY forward, ball left of that—obviously.

5-iron up to 3-iron, club VERY SLIGHTLY forward of middle to slightly forward, ball left of that.

Ball off of left heel for driver with an orthodox wide driver stance.

Fairway woods and hybrids between the long irons and Driver.

YOU SHOULD BE SWINGING ACROSS THE LEFT LEG, so now you can have "normal" ball position.

[cnadon]

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[Brian Manzella]

When I see folks show up for golf lessons with their ball BACK OF MIDDLE and hands WAY FORWARD with a 7-iron, they have NO CHANCE to hit a good solid straight ball.

And for the most part, make a good swing.

(Of course, some of these people come to me with their hands VERY HIGH, their right forearms VERY LOW, and a reverse pivot—but that's another problem)

So, just don't over do it, or you'll destroy the D-Plane.

Of course, there are kooks out there who are scared to death of D-Planes, and TrackMans.

[rogerdodger]

Thanks for the response, I am obviously playing the ball too far back in my stance. Must be common with too inside out swingers, the ball just feels better when it is back and hands are forward.

[pm4610]

I don't understand "swinging across the left leg" (or away from it for that matter).
I'd appreciate it if someone could give me an explanation...

Thanks,
p

[Brian Manzella]

Originally Posted by rogerdodger

Thanks for the response, I am obviously playing the ball too far back in my stance. Must be common with too inside out swingers, the ball just feels better when it is back and hands are forward.

Hey, whatever works for you. And for anyone else.

I just have WAY higher standards.

[rogerdodger]

thats the issue Brian, it is so easy to let a poor swingplane worsen every part fo the swing. Intellectually, I know ball up, hands midbody at address, no pop out in takeaway is what I need. When I get over a ball, I cannot convince myself that I can hit the ball from there. I need to keep watching soft draw and try to talk my wife into going to New Orleans under the guise of oyster eating.