Alignment questions/D Plane

[welshdentist]

For Brian/Academy members,

Is there variation on how a golfer aligns dependant on where they are in the Manzella matrix?

How should a "middle of the matrix" player set up in terms of alignment of feet/hips/shoulders to target and what would be general rules for ball position?

How does this change form one side of the matrix to the other, or is it individually based?

Is there a way of calculating how much left or right of this "standard" a golfer aligns according to the D-Plane change of planned ball flight (high/low fade/draw)

(And congrats to Kevin on joining the Manzella academy instructors)

[Kevin Shields]

Originally Posted by welshdentist

For Brian/Academy members,

Is there variation on how a golfer aligns dependant on where they are in the Manzella matrix?

How should a "middle of the matrix" player set up in terms of alignment of feet/hips/shoulders to target and what would be general rules for ball position?

How does this change form one side of the matrix to the other, or is it individually based?

Is there a way of calculating how much left or right of this "standard" a golfer aligns according to the D-Plane change of planned ball flight (high/low fade/draw)

(And congrats to Kevin on joining the Manzella academy instructors)

Hey, thanks. So I'll take my new title and wow you with this answer. "I have no idea" Haha. So many variables. Depends on how much you want to curve it, how much of a downward strike you have, etc. My advice is work on the elements of whatever pattern you are experimenting with and align according to ball flight. Just dont be surprised if its less/more left or right than in the past.

[Jim Kobylinski]

Kevin is correct, it just depends on you really. You setup for the shot you want, GENERALLY (not always) the more you close your stance the more you'll draw it and the more you open your stance the more you'll fade it.

Now remember, it's a generalization assuming a rather neutral face and neutral path. Ultimately people who know how to stand how open/closed is through through trial and error. Very few people really understand ball flight and the D plane anyway.

[welshdentist]

Thanks guys,

I don't know why but only reading the forum in the last week has "dejunked" my brain in alignment and ball position.

So many variables it shows why you need someone instructing you who understands.

After a "lull" the forum is kicking ass of late, great information.

Why does the world thinks parallel to plane line is the right set up?

At least I know better now....

[Bigwill]

Originally Posted by welshdentist

Why does the world thinks parallel to plane line is the right set up?

Because they like pretty, straight lines. And because it makes theoretical sense.
It just don't work for everybody in real life (took me almost 8 years to figure this out for my swing; just couldn't figure out why my best looking/feeling shots weren't going to the target).

[matt kluck]

If you align correctly you will always aim your ballflight,whatever that is, if you want to compete on the highest level. Granted, that ballflight needs to be consistent! Putting and shortgame needs to be a STRENGTH in order to compete at high levels.
MK

[Kevin Shields]

Originally Posted by Bigwill

Because they like pretty, straight lines. And because it makes theoretical sense.
It just don't work for everybody in real life (took me almost 8 years to figure this out for my swing; just couldn't figure out why my best looking/feeling shots weren't going to the target).

Good post. Pretty lines always look good People would always tell me I'm aimed too far right. I'd look at them like they were nuts cuz my ball was going toward the target.

[puttmad]

Originally Posted by Kevin Shields

Good post. Pretty lines always look good People would always tell me I'm aimed too far right. I'd look at them like they were nuts cuz my ball was going toward the target.

Agreed,
It doesn't matter as long as you send the ball towards the target, however you stand.....

And I've noticed some really "strange" feet positions with a few of the tour pros these days....
Whatever floats your boat...