Flat vs Steep shoulder turn

jenhaoyen · 11-08-2008, 06:27 PM

I just realized yesterday on the driving range,
If you turn around a center point that's in the middle of your back then you would have a really flat shoulder turn in backswing.

vs

If you turn around 3-4 inches below your neck you would have a steeper shoulder turn.

Jim Kobylinski · 11-09-2008, 02:22 AM

incorrect

you can have a flat or steep shoulder with any type of pivot you want. They turn independantly.

jenhaoyen · 11-09-2008, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Kobylinski

incorrect

you can have a flat or steep shoulder with any type of pivot you want. They turn independantly.

Brian said I had too much lean on my backswing towards my rightside
I can never really get a steep shoulder turn. Now i have a steeper shoulder turn everything works out great.

Jim Kobylinski · 11-09-2008, 07:03 PM

True there are tendecies towards flat/steep shoulder turns but you can easily still lean right and have a steep turn and/or reverse pivot with flat shoulders.

That's what i'm trying to say, it's independent.

jenhaoyen · 11-09-2008, 08:35 PM

should i post a video hahaha

Notorious B.E.N. · 11-10-2008, 09:08 AM

Why is Tiger's shoulder turn steeper back here in 2000?

Was this a better way to swing for him?

hcw · 11-10-2008, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notorious B.E.N.

Why is Tiger's shoulder turn steeper back here in 2000?

Was this a better way to swing for him?

...i think it is really dangerous to take one snapshot of one swing from a random angle and generalize for guys at that level...one rarely knows the situation, type of shot, etc. that the player might be trying to accomplish...on the other hand, iirc, he was playing pretty well at that time:-)

birdie_man · 11-10-2008, 01:15 PM

Looks like a pretty standard picture of "Butch Tiger" to me hcw........no?

He said once that that Open was the best he ever hit it BTW. (not sure if it still stands)

jenhaoyen · 11-10-2008, 03:16 PM

correct me if i'm wrong here but if you have a pretty flat waist turn...you must have some kind of steeper shoulder turn right?

Notorious B.E.N. · 11-10-2008, 07:55 PM

Here it is again. Was he swinging better back then because of a steeper should turn

Which meant he couldn't come too much from the inside?

11-08-2008, 06:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
jenhaoyen Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 355	Flat vs Steep shoulder turn I just realized yesterday on the driving range, If you turn around a center point that's in the middle of your back then you would have a really flat shoulder turn in backswing. vs If you turn around 3-4 inches below your neck you would have a steeper shoulder turn.

11-09-2008, 02:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jim Kobylinski MANZELLA GOLF ACADEMY Staff Instructor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,077	incorrect you can have a flat or steep shoulder with any type of pivot you want. They turn independantly. __________________ I am happy to announce that after a hiatus to play amateur golf, Jim Kobylinski is back in the fold as a Brian Manzella Staff Instructor, Brian

11-09-2008, 07:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jim Kobylinski MANZELLA GOLF ACADEMY Staff Instructor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,077	True there are tendecies towards flat/steep shoulder turns but you can easily still lean right and have a steep turn and/or reverse pivot with flat shoulders. That's what i'm trying to say, it's independent. __________________ I am happy to announce that after a hiatus to play amateur golf, Jim Kobylinski is back in the fold as a Brian Manzella Staff Instructor, Brian

11-10-2008, 09:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
Notorious B.E.N. Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Abilene, TX Posts: 94	Why is Tiger's shoulder turn steeper back here in 2000? Was this a better way to swing for him? __________________ “The object of golf is not just to win. It is to play like a gentleman, and win.” - Phil Mickelson

11-10-2008, 01:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
birdie_man Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada. Posts: 4,809	Looks like a pretty standard picture of "Butch Tiger" to me hcw........no? He said once that that Open was the best he ever hit it BTW. (not sure if it still stands) __________________ POWERHOUSE http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDqR4fqIWE&fmt=18

11-09-2008, 08:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
jenhaoyen Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 355	should i post a video hahaha

11-10-2008, 03:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
jenhaoyen Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 355	correct me if i'm wrong here but if you have a pretty flat waist turn...you must have some kind of steeper shoulder turn right?

11-10-2008, 07:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Notorious B.E.N. Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Abilene, TX Posts: 94	Here it is again. Was he swinging better back then because of a steeper should turn Which meant he couldn't come too much from the inside? __________________ “The object of golf is not just to win. It is to play like a gentleman, and win.” - Phil Mickelson

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode