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Old 11-15-2008, 06:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been told that I have a bit of a circular delivery path instead of a straight line path. I understand the concept of straight line (from the top of the swing the back shoulder goes towards the ball, pretty much in a straight line). However, I'm still not clear on what the circular path is?

Also, what drill can be used to get to the proper straight line path. I'm afraid if I tried I'd probably hit shanks all day long.




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I assume you're referring to the path of your hands. It's never actually in a straight path. But some paths are straighter than others...especially if you have more trigger delay.
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there is a great explanation and drill in "confessions of a former flipper."
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've been told that I have a bit of a circular delivery path instead of a straight line path. I understand the concept of straight line (from the top of the swing the back shoulder goes towards the ball, pretty much in a straight line). However, I'm still not clear on what the circular path is?

Also, what drill can be used to get to the proper straight line path. I'm afraid if I tried I'd probably hit shanks all day long.




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It's actually not correct to say that a straight line path to the ball is "proper". Ask Nick Price, Vijay, or Sergio.
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It's actually not correct to say that a straight line path to the ball is "proper". Ask Nick Price, Vijay, or Sergio
Was he not refering to shoulder plane path

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from the top of the swing the back shoulder goes towards the ball, pretty much in a straight line). However, I'm still not clear on what the circular path is?
Are you sure you want to say that an "on-Plane" right shoulder motion does not work on a straight line towards the ball
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Are you sure you want to say that an "on-Plane" right shoulder motion does not work on a straight line towards the ball

Not saying that at all. I'm asking what a circular path delivery looks like. I'm pretty sure I understand the straight line, but I just don't understand circular path.




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Not saying that at all. I'm asking what a circular path delivery looks like. I'm pretty sure I understand the straight line, but I just don't understand circular path.
You might want to mention the hands then!!
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Not saying that at all. I'm asking what a circular path delivery looks like. I'm pretty sure I understand the straight line, but I just don't understand circular path.
Ok,

All delivery paths of the hands take on a circular path. A straight line is a concept - when you pull the shaft longitudinally (say vertically downwards for simplicity sake) ie.. swing a rope - you are using a straight line delivery (or an angled line but don't worry about that for now). When you push and thrust the right arm against the clubshaft you are using radial acceleration "driving an axe" into the ground.

In a nutshell the more you push - using right arm thrust the more your delivery path will be more circular. The more you pull - using the rotating pivot to pull your left arm downplane the more straight line your delivery path will be.
If someone is saying that you have a circular delivery path you probably have a sweep release (you release the club early in the downswing) or you are really thrusting your right arm.

In lay mans terms: your swing radius gets longer earlier due to an earlier release point - The club is working in a circle earlier end of story

I'd be asking you if the club is on plane in the downswing before you worry about what dekivery path your are using. Don't put variations before samenesses
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I'd be asking you if the club is on plane in the downswing before you worry about what dekivery path your are using. Don't put variations before samenesses
Twitch --

Thanks for the explanation. I just got back into the game after a long layoff. I flirted around with some TGM, even some MORAD stuff, but never got too serious into it and it's been a long time.

Anyway, plane on the downswing is one of my three major problems. I can still get around at a 2.3 handicap (used to be as low as +0.7 ten years ago), but my downswing is way too steep. I think I know some of the flaws helping cause that, but I will have to wait until tomorrow to record my swing and see if I'm on the right path.

Once again, thanks for the help.




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