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Old 06-28-2009, 07:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The Soft Draw Pattern and The D-Plane

Negative angle of attack and aim right of target - how does the ball not end up well right of the target? Flip the clubhead closed on the down swing?
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Old 06-28-2009, 08:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Negative angle of attack and aim right of target - how does the ball not end up well right of the target?
Because the DOWN of the negative angle of attack also includes an OUT, so that if you hit the ball with a clubface square to where you are lined up (which is just slightly right of your target), then the clubface is actually slightly closed relative to your path. The ball will therefore curve left -either a tiny bit, ending up at the target, or slightly more, ending up left of the target.


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Flip the clubhead closed on the down swing?
Well, that would surely do it as well, but it probably wouldn't be the plan.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Negative angle of attack and aim right of target - how does the ball not end up well right of the target? Flip the clubhead closed on the down swing?
Aim and swing one yard to the Right.

Limit the downward.

So....
9-iron: 4° downward, aiming and swinging 1° to the right (that's more than 1 yard—actually it is 1.75 yards @ 100 yards), would give you about 4° inside-out and with a 2° open face, you'll have a tap in.

6-iron: 3° downward, aiming and swinging 1° to the right, would give you about 4.5° degrees inside-out and with a 3° open face, you'll have a tap in.

Driver: 1° upward, aiming and swinging 1° to the right with a square face, you'll hit a straight ball, but to be honest, I'd prefer 3° upward and 1° open face, with a 4° to the right aim/swing.
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Aim and swing one yard to the Right.

Limit the downward.

So....
9-iron: 4° downward, aiming and swinging 1° to the right (that's more than 1 yard—actually it is 1.75 yards @ 100 yards), would give you about 4° inside-out and with a 2° open face, you'll have a tap in.

6-iron: 3° downward, aiming and swinging 1° to the right, would give you about 4.5° degrees inside-out and with a 3° open face, you'll have a tap in.

Driver: 1° upward, aiming and swinging 1° to the right with a square face, you'll hit a straight ball, but to be honest, I'd prefer 3° upward and 1° open face, with a 4° to the right aim/swing.
Ok good info - but it looks like the PGA guys are aiming left to hit the straight shot? Seems Is it easier or more effective than the SD pattern??
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Ok good info - but it looks like the PGA guys are aiming left to hit the straight shot? Seems Is it easier or more effective than the SD pattern??
Not all of them do; look at Kenny Perry.
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Not all of them do; look at Kenny Perry.
Not sure if he aims right but - I believe I read he swings 6.5 inside out with the driver.
Still I like the easy motion of David Toms - who suprisingly is 7th on the all time money list at at over $30m.
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Aim and swing one yard to the Right.

Limit the downward.

So....
9-iron: 4° downward, aiming and swinging 1° to the right (that's more than 1 yard—actually it is 1.75 yards @ 100 yards), would give you about 4° inside-out and with a 2° open face, you'll have a tap in.

6-iron: 3° downward, aiming and swinging 1° to the right, would give you about 4.5° degrees inside-out and with a 3° open face, you'll have a tap in.

Driver: 1° upward, aiming and swinging 1° to the right with a square face, you'll hit a straight ball, but to be honest, I'd prefer 3° upward and 1° open face, with a 4° to the right aim/swing.
These numbers don't work for an underplane hooker that employs NHA II - correct?
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Brian did title that post "How the Soft Draw Pattern works the D-Plane."

NHA would have different numbers.
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am i on the right path with this: in sd pattern, you aim slightly right but with a slightly open face and have an in to out swing.

but all this talk about swinging/aiming left? is the face to be open or to the intended target? would this be an out to in swing then?
sorry if this has already been answered(prob. in depth).
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Pieman, the face would be square to the target on an out to in swing/plane line.
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