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Old 06-29-2009, 07:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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A friend of mine sent me an email with a link to a question and answer by another "Golfing Machine" book literalist.

The question was what they thought about the D-Plane ball flight explanation.

The answer was:
1. They like what Homer said better

2. I just coined some phrase
He is my retort:
1. Homer was VERY WRONG about ball-flight

2. Theodore Jorgenson "coined" the phrase and defined the D-Plane

3. TrackMan just confirms it, and so did PING and their 100,000 frame camera
So basically, this Q & A by this poor lost soul, is just a PERFECT explanation about how goofy someone who believes in something with blinders on.

And, how I wind up the bad guy who is "soooooo critical of other teachers."

What a joke.
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A deep emotional investment.

Every "lead character" needs a foil. It's actually good marketing for you.
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I enjoy picturing the world is flat. It matches what I see better.
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A deep emotional investment.

Every "lead character" needs a foil. It's actually good marketing for you.
I have about two dozen foils.

It really is quite sad though.

So many total zombies....
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A friend of mine sent me an email with a link to a question and answer by another "Golfing Machine" book literalist.

The question was what they thought about the D-Plane ball flight explanation.

The answer was:
1. They like what Homer said better

2. I just coined some phrase
He is my retort:
1. Homer was VERY WRONG about ball-flight

2. Theodore Jorgenson "coined" the phrase and defined the D-Plane

3. TrackMan just confirms it, and so did PING and their 100,000 frame camera
So basically, this Q & A by this poor lost soul, is just a PERFECT explanation about how goofy someone who believes in something with blinders on.

And, how I wind up the bad guy who is "soooooo critical of other teachers."

What a joke.
They are in denial and they are trying desperatetly to protect what's left of their so called credibility. It's hard to admit your wrong when you have told everyone how right you are for so long.
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Default Ya know...

... you could have just called it "The Shwartz!"

and really had them reeling for a definition of your shot making "magic".

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The thing is, it isn't a matter of what anyone "thinks it is": all that matters is what can be demonstrated using Trackman and high-speed cameras. If they "like what Homer said better", then they need to confirm it with today's technology. If they can't, then their beliefs are simply faith-based. Without data to back it up, opinions on this topic are meaningless.
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I know I read somewhere in the TGM book that the further up the plane angle you hit the ball the more you have to adjust the club face for a straight shot - or something to that effect.
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I know I read somewhere in the TGM book that the further up the plane angle you hit the ball the more you have to adjust the club face for a straight shot - or something to that effect.
No chance that the idea of the D-Plane is ANYWHERE in TGM's pages.

Geez....

Why is it sooooooo hard to admit you are wrong about a book's infallibility?
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No chance that the idea of the D-Plane is ANYWHERE in TGM's pages.

Geez....

Why is it sooooooo hard to admit you are wrong about a book's infallibility?
True there is no D plane reference - but HK was not against swinging right or left. There are several references to opening and closing ones stance line relative to the straight away plane. Read 6-E-2 -2 and 3 for example.
Compare to nearly all traditional golf instruction suggests setting up ala the railroad tracks.
I think the D plane rocks. But so does the book. I also believe there is only two type of scientific theories per Karl Popper. Those theories that have been proven untrue and those yet to be proven untrue!
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IMHO you and Mr. Kelley would have had a great relationship if you had ever had the opportunity! Peace.
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