Rules Question

Matt F. · 07-02-2009, 02:48 PM

What is the ruling on having your ball come to rest against a pile of fresh raccoon dung? Is there a rule that would cover a free drop instead of loose impediment? Mind you that it was a fresh pile that could not be completely removed.

curtisj76 · 07-02-2009, 02:58 PM

A drop from droppings? That's funny, kinda gross but funny.

thegreatone · 07-02-2009, 03:37 PM

Crap that could be a sticky subject. The USGA would have two blue coats on this one.

djm · 07-02-2009, 04:05 PM

The definition of loose impediment specifically lists dung as a loose impediment. I think you are in Rule 23 territory. If the stuff is fresh and thus adhering to the ball, it isn’t a loose impediment and you cannot touch it at all.

07-02-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djm

The definition of loose impediment specifically lists dung as a loose impediment. I think you are in Rule 23 territory. If the stuff is fresh and thus adhering to the ball, it isn’t a loose impediment and you cannot touch it at all.

Why would you want to?

fronesis · 07-03-2009, 07:53 AM

My home club in Wales had a local rule specifically for this situation. If your ball came to rest in something fresh, you got a free drop. And as our course was on commons land, we had a lot of these situations to deal with.

But if there's no local rule at the course you're playing, then the rules provide no relief and it's a really bad break. Either hit it out of the shit (literally) or take an unplayable.

JonWil · 07-03-2009, 12:54 PM

ouside agency - rub of the green Matt. I'd be thinking Annika or Duval on your next shot!

cal7426 · 07-03-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fronesis

My home club in Wales had a local rule specifically for this situation. If your ball came to rest in something fresh, you got a free drop. And as our course was on commons land, we had a lot of these situations to deal with.

But if there's no local rule at the course you're playing, then the rules provide no relief and it's a really bad break. Either hit it out of the shit (literally) or take an unplayable.

A few years ago I played Holywell in North Wales which is also on common land and populated by sheep who deposit lots of loose impediments. I hit one of the sheep first bounce with a drive - it just stood there after it had been hit looking mildly affronted. However, as I'm a vegetarian, friend of the earth, tree-hugging eco-warrior I've felt guilty ever since.

puttmad · 07-03-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cal7426

A few years ago I played Holywell in North Wales which is also on common land and populated by sheep who deposit lots of loose impediments. I hit one of the sheep first bounce with a drive - it just stood there after it had been hit looking mildly affronted. However, as I'm a vegetarian, friend of the earth, tree-hugging eco-warrior I've felt guilty ever since.

You're baaaaaaaarmy mate..

curtisj76 · 07-03-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cal7426

A few years ago I played Holywell in North Wales which is also on common land and populated by sheep who deposit lots of loose impediments. I hit one of the sheep first bounce with a drive - it just stood there after it had been hit looking mildly affronted. However, as I'm a vegetarian, friend of the earth, tree-hugging eco-warrior I've felt guilty ever since.

Not as bad as that old lady who pegged and killed that seagull on youtube!

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Matt F. Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 502	Rules Question What is the ruling on having your ball come to rest against a pile of fresh raccoon dung? Is there a rule that would cover a free drop instead of loose impediment? Mind you that it was a fresh pile that could not be completely removed.

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07-02-2009, 03:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
thegreatone Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3	Crap that could be a sticky subject. The USGA would have two blue coats on this one.

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djm Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Posts: 25	The definition of loose impediment specifically lists dung as a loose impediment. I think you are in Rule 23 territory. If the stuff is fresh and thus adhering to the ball, it isn’t a loose impediment and you cannot touch it at all.

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fronesis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore Posts: 418	My home club in Wales had a local rule specifically for this situation. If your ball came to rest in something fresh, you got a free drop. And as our course was on commons land, we had a lot of these situations to deal with. But if there's no local rule at the course you're playing, then the rules provide no relief and it's a really bad break. Either hit it out of the shit (literally) or take an unplayable.

07-03-2009, 12:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
JonWil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 306	ouside agency - rub of the green Matt. I'd be thinking Annika or Duval on your next shot!

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