connection and hand path

[eugd]

A Friend of mine gave me some recommendations to take the club more away from my body to get more ark in my swing. As a result it made me more inconsistent and my misses were weak pushes. I noticed that the closer I keep my hands to my body it is better for my swing. It turns out that my hand path in the take away has become the problem. my hands are moving away from the body resulting with me becoming disconnected in my upper body even though I feel connected. Once I kept my hands closer to my body I rediscovered my draw. What are good drills to work on hand path in the takeaway. I know the glove drill and the towel drill but is there anything for the hands to stay more connected in the swing. What is the proper distance from your hands at setup to the takeaway. I see people have there hands more away from there body. When I focus on my hands close I feel like I’m crowding myself. I know that your hands are supposed to hand freely at address. but, then I feel disconnected in my upper arm.

Thanks for you anticipated help....

[Kevin Shields]

As a bit of a generic starting point set up about a hands width away from your crotch, having your arms hang vertical for a mid iron.

As a drill, stick the toe of a club in the ground and assume an address position. Using your core muscles start a takeaway and move the hands/handle with your stomach and feet to pull the club out of the ground. Try to slightly brush your right thigh with your hands. You can make your takeaway more athletic and work on hand path at one time.

[jenhaoyen]

Originally Posted by Kevin Shields

As a bit of a generic starting point set up about a hands width away from your crotch, having your arms hang vertical for a mid iron.

As a drill, stick the toe of a club in the ground and assume an address position. Using your core muscles start a takeaway and move the hands/handle with your stomach and feet to pull the club out of the ground. Try to slightly brush your right thigh with your hands. You can make your takeaway more athletic and work on hand path at one time.

What exactly is the backswing sequence after you have right forearm higher than the left and the club is pointing 3 olclock on the take away? Do you just turn your shoulder while bending your right wrist back? I think I got the core muscle to take the club back but i'm not sure what to do afterwards. What is the key to finish the backswing after you get the club to point at your 3 oclock position?

[Jim Kobylinski]

bend the right arm at the elbow joint to bring the club UP

[Kevin Shields]

Originally Posted by jenhaoyen

What exactly is the backswing sequence after you have right forearm higher than the left and the club is pointing 3 olclock on the take away? Do you just turn your shoulder while bending your right wrist back? I think I got the core muscle to take the club back but i'm not sure what to do afterwards. What is the key to finish the backswing after you get the club to point at your 3 oclock position?

Depends on what you want to do with the left arm/club wedge. My right arm feels like it stays higher the whole way back and into the transition. Others will feel a more rotated left arm at the top. You could prob use a little less lift by the look of your "i suck at golf" video

[jenhaoyen]

Originally Posted by Jim Kobylinski

bend the right arm at the elbow joint to bring the club UP

you mean like this?

[eugd]

Thanks for your help everyone, I will try to work on the drill, and I don’t look or feel anything like that on jenhaoyen video. I used to look and feel like him before my lesson with a local pro. I feel my upper arms closer and my elbows are against my chest so the club hands are closer to me. so when I take my club back I don’t disconnect. I feel my right elbow close to my chest for the first part of the takeaway.

however, I what I am confused about is the actual position of the hands and how they move. I know how it looks in the frontal view but not the side view. eg. let’s say golf digest it looks like the pro's have their hands their arms hanging freely, but on the take away they appear very close to them in the take away, almost touching there right leg. but on the rotational motion they don't look crowded with their upper arms on the take away. Instead they work away from them freely, Then work upwards.
when I set up in the same manner, and stat my takeaway I feel my upper arms crowded after my lesson with a local pro. In the videos on line and purchased through the site, and other videos I see online most teaching professionals appear to have much more space between their upper arms (triceps area and elbows) and there chest. resulting with the hands much further way from there waist line, they don’t look crowded with their upper arms.

My problem this season has been a disconnect of my arms and my swing resulting in a push mostly due to a disconnect in the arms and hands. I always thought connected meant the left arms against the chest through impact so you won’t flip it or have a chicken wing. I never thought of focusing on my right arm. I took a lesson with a local pro and he told me my problem was my takeaway. So I worked on getting my hands closer to me and it has helped with my hands path. However, by getting my hands closer I feel crowded by my upper arms. I was trying to get more width in my swing so I began to disconnect early that It cause me to too come in too steep and dirt it fat or at times push the shot . when I keep my hands closer I shallow out my swing. the problem is that my swing feels choppy and with a flat ark resulting with a hook if I don’t swing out with a miss on the toe of the club. when I played well I used a neutral grip with my left hand and I drew the ball without thinking about it. now my bad shots are a hook or and the good shots are a small draw... I don’t know If I feel crowded because I am or it’s just a adjustment. But the result is still a choppy not fluid motion that I feel tension during my swing.

thanks again for your time and help.

[spktho]

Can you post up a video?

[eugd]

I wish I could but I dont have time to go to the range and do It maybe, Ill try to get film when I am at home one day this week.

[jenhaoyen]

Originally Posted by eugd

Thanks for your help everyone, I will try to work on the drill, and I don’t look or feel anything like that on jenhaoyen video. I used to look and feel like him before my lesson with a local pro. I feel my upper arms closer and my elbows are against my chest so the club hands are closer to me. so when I take my club back I don’t disconnect. I feel my right elbow close to my chest for the first part of the takeaway.

however, I what I am confused about is the actual position of the hands and how they move. I know how it looks in the frontal view but not the side view. eg. let’s say golf digest it looks like the pro's have their hands their arms hanging freely, but on the take away they appear very close to them in the take away, almost touching there right leg. but on the rotational motion they don't look crowded with their upper arms on the take away. Instead they work away from them freely, Then work upwards.
when I set up in the same manner, and stat my takeaway I feel my upper arms crowded after my lesson with a local pro. In the videos on line and purchased through the site, and other videos I see online most teaching professionals appear to have much more space between their upper arms (triceps area and elbows) and there chest. resulting with the hands much further way from there waist line, they don’t look crowded with their upper arms.

My problem this season has been a disconnect of my arms and my swing resulting in a push mostly due to a disconnect in the arms and hands. I always thought connected meant the left arms against the chest through impact so you won’t flip it or have a chicken wing. I never thought of focusing on my right arm. I took a lesson with a local pro and he told me my problem was my takeaway. So I worked on getting my hands closer to me and it has helped with my hands path. However, by getting my hands closer I feel crowded by my upper arms. I was trying to get more width in my swing so I began to disconnect early that It cause me to too come in too steep and dirt it fat or at times push the shot . when I keep my hands closer I shallow out my swing. the problem is that my swing feels choppy and with a flat ark resulting with a hook if I don’t swing out with a miss on the toe of the club. when I played well I used a neutral grip with my left hand and I drew the ball without thinking about it. now my bad shots are a hook or and the good shots are a small draw... I don’t know If I feel crowded because I am or it’s just a adjustment. But the result is still a choppy not fluid motion that I feel tension during my swing.

thanks again for your time and help.

I'm not trying to make my elbows close to my body, it just happens when I pivot back my backswing. My arms just follows the body.