I switched to a strong single action grip and..

[greenfree]

Originally Posted by Tball88

Strong Single Action is a great grip, especially with the wedges and shorter irons. Easier to avoid flipping as well, as the strong single action makes it almost impossible to break down the left wrist.

Downside, you have to hold it off, any roll of the left arm and it's fore left.

Why does it make the left wrist almost impossible to break down?

[greenfree]

Originally Posted by Deadly_Scope

The golfing machine is full of holes and contradictions.

Blind leading the blind.

In your opinion what's the most erroneous thing in TGM. If you had to pick one.

[Lindsey Newman]

Originally Posted by Matt F.

Nope, Hogan put it in the gap. "A word more about the little finger of the right hand. While it has been approved practice for quite some time to let the little finger ride sort of piggyback on top of the left forefinger, I would really advise you to hook that little finger in the groove between the forefinger and the big finger. It helps to keep the hands from slipping apart. It also gives me the good feeling that my hands are knitted vigorously together." Hogan-Five Lessons

Could not agree more!

[Deadly_Scope]

Originally Posted by greenfree

In your opinion what's the most erroneous thing in TGM. If you had to pick one.

The most damaging advice within the book is the information on wrist conditions and grip.

[Tball88]

Greenfree, below is a quote from Brian on a strong single action,

"because you CAN'T "flip" your wrist if you use a "perpendicular" left hand grip.

Perpendicular??

If your left hand is perpendicular to the leading edge.

Why?

Because you can only un-cock your wrist so far.

Get it?

[dannyuk32]

Originally Posted by greenfree

In your opinion what's the most erroneous thing in TGM. If you had to pick one.

Probably shoudn't add to the hijack but can't resist.. Right forearm takeaway and 'Hitting, Switting ? and Swinging.

[dbl]

Yes but look at Deadly's answer - fairly appropos for the thread topic.

But the $64 question regarding the OP's topic (to me) is How strong?

When I put the left thumb aft, as the book describes, the left is barely strong at all - like a "2 knuckle" grip. And the pics in the book for SSA seem similar. But I play with someone who's left is REALLY strong, like a "4 knuckle" grip - that left is really turned to the plane. So when the OP says he went to the SSA, I wonder to what degree he went.

Personally I also don't see why Kelley went with these particular wrist/grip classifications. I do think grip is quite important to the stroke, and so imagine he likely had to limit his grip types and design his nomenclature so he could round out the rest of the stroke actions he was describing.

Oh back to the topic....my trouble is actually with the right hand grip, and so the "single action" is the part that winds up giving me a grip that works with my swing. For me, it seems whether the hands are too strong or weak mainly just affects the face at impact and I can (generally) adjust that and find a happy position.

[dannyc]

Originally Posted by Tball88

Strong Single Action is a great grip, especially with the wedges and shorter irons. Easier to avoid flipping as well, as the strong single action makes it almost impossible to break down the left wrist.

Downside, you have to hold it off, any roll of the left arm and it's fore left.

you mean strong double action?

Originally Posted by Tball88

Greenfree, below is a quote from Brian on a strong single action,

"because you CAN'T "flip" your wrist if you use a "perpendicular"left hand grip.

Perpendicular??

If your left hand is perpendicular to the leading edge.

Why?

Because you can only un-cock your wrist so far.

Get it?

sda

Originally Posted by dbl

When I put the left thumb aft, as the book describes, the left is barely strong at all - like a "2 knuckle" grip.

that's probably ssa

Originally Posted by dbl

And the pics in the book for SSA seem similar. But I play with someone who's left is REALLY strong, like a "4 knuckle" grip - that left is really turned to the plane.

sda

[dbl]

Hey thanks Danny for the clarifications (at least on my parts) as that makes sense to me. My friend with the 'SDA' grip has a hammer action and if he rotates his arms ccw in the downswing he hooks it off the planet. All consistent....

[Brian Manzella]

Stupid Book.

Damn.

Here the RIGHT WAY to classify the golfer's hold on the club.

1. How many hands on the club?

2. Where on the club grip is the golfer's grip?

3. Are they connected to each other? How are the connections accomplished.

4. Where in the each hand is the club? What ANGLE is the hand on relative to the shaft.

5. What is relationship of the back of the left hand to the clubface in degrees?

6. What is the relationship of the right wrist bones to the clubface in degrees?

That took me three minutes.