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    Quote Originally Posted by matt kluck View Post
    Shaft flex and type of ball. Period!
    Definitely interested to hear your opinion and knowledge as it pertains to this comment.

    I had a TM staff fitting day today, and they said the opposite!

    They said the head and face dominate the equation with angle of attack secondary, and the effects from shaft flex pretty minimal.

    They test all their components on the MATT system and on Trackman.

    Sample size of all golf swings that have been tested run well over 160,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damon Lucas View Post
    Definitely interested to hear your opinion and knowledge as it pertains to this comment.

    I had a TM staff fitting day today, and they said the opposite!

    They said the head and face dominate the equation with angle of attack secondary, and the effects from shaft flex pretty minimal.

    They test all their components on the MATT system and on Trackman.

    Sample size of all golf swings that have been tested run well over 160,000.
    TM is right

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    Maybe he uses a fujikara shaft to hit a pro v1 with a persimmon head?
    So, one way NOT to "do it," would be "not doing it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Sturgess View Post
    Maybe he uses a fujikara shaft to hit a pro v1 with a persimmon head?
    LOL, that ball would probably never get in the air.

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    Based on going for testing on a luanch monitor I need less spin (but I like my Titleist 905R and am hesitant to change). I took out one of the new Cleveland Hi-Bore drivers on demo and found, probably for the first time, a club I really hated and really could not hit. Most other drivers I've fiddled with have been within a fairly tight range but this driver I was hitting low snap hooks with. Weird. I can not understand why it would be so different?
    Last edited by niblick1; 04-02-2008 at 02:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kobylinski View Post
    Exactly, shaft and ball choices are for fine tuning launch conditions. The COG placement of the head along with the loft you choose are the two dominant factors when it comes to spin.

    Here's my quick list in no particular order which can all be bought at retail:

    Hibore XL Tour
    Hibore XL (with upgraded shaft)
    Callaway FT5/FTI tour series and new FTI LCG models
    Cobra L4V (with an upgraded shaft)
    TM Burner TP Version 1*

    I might be missing some but those are what jumps off the top of my head.

    *For those who are curious, the V1 TP Burner was a limited retail release but then recalled because it launhed too low and spun too little for the golfing masses. However they are still floating around people's hands and you can get them from people who have tour sources.
    Jim,
    If you are not refining or fine tuning a fitting then the fit is non-existant.

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    Flip flops for sale
    Moving the hands towards the target....is death.

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    Jim, Would bottom weighting a driver with lead tape reduce spin rate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kobylinski View Post
    LOL, that ball would probably never get in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt kluck View Post
    Jim,
    If you are not refining or fine tuning a fitting then the fit is non-existant.
    I really don't mean for this to be taken the wrong way but i have given numerous fittings and yes you do have to fine tune and find the right ball and the right shaft and even at times the right overall weight of the club and even the swingweight because it all effects a person's swing.

    HOWEVER

    you should first fit for driver type and loft before you start messing with shafts and/or balls because the right driver and loft will get you 80-90% of the way there and the shaft/ball combo will be that remaining 10-20% depending on the player.

    I just hate to see how some people think that they can simply change shafts (within the same flex range mind you) and reduce spin by 800-900rpm or do magical things to their launch angles. I remember one time when i was giving a fitting that the person had come from someone else and they told them they had to change all this stuff. I looked at him and it was A SWING ISSUE and not an equiptment issue. We changed some setup stuff around and we dropped 850rpm on his spin rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flapro View Post
    Jim, Would bottom weighting a driver with lead tape reduce spin rate?
    Thanks
    No, it also won't effect fading or drawing the ball either. You are simply adding more weight to create a higher swing weight. However lead tape does generate a whole lot of placebo effect though

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